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Automatic Spectrometer Calibration and Offline SWB - GSoC 2014 Proposal

by Sreyanth | March 04, 2014 18:29 | 106 views | 18 comments | #10103 | 106 views | 18 comments | #10103 04 Mar 18:29

Name: Mora Sreyantha Chary, (fondly called as Sreyanth)

Affiliation (school/degree): National Institute of Technology Karnataka (Computer Engineering, 2014)

Location: Hyderabad, India (during summer). Time zone: UTC + 5:30

Email: sreyanth@gmail.com

Project I want to work on: Spectral Workbench

Proposed Project title: Automatic Spectrometer Calibration & Macros Module, Offline Version of SWB

Project description

Abstract:

The public laboratory’s Spectral Workbench provides its users with tools to share the spectra and work on it. I would like to add few extra yet important functionalities -- A mechanism enabling SWB to automatically calibrate the spectrometer(s) of the users and a Macros module . With these in place, the users will be able to make sure that their spectrometers are accurately calibrated and thus can be helpful while calibrating the newly uploaded spectrums. The Macros module helps the users to automate most of their manual routine work on SWB. This helps the users with high end computation requirements use the Macros module and let the SWB do the work for them. And the second part of this project is a popular demand from various people on the mailing lists -- an offline version of SWB. With the stand-alone Java version deprecated, a browser based offline version, preferably using the existing HTML and JS, and the LocalStorage of HTML5 to store the captures, and a mechanism to upload the captures when connected to the internet, is really necessary. With these two features, the SWB will be much more user friendly and effective too.

The need my project fulfills:

My project aims to automate the error-prone calibration of spectrometers, thus making the process effective. Users may not, sometimes, accurately calibrate the spectrometers. Or, in some cases, may not calibrate at all. To encourage them to calibrate the spectrometers, it will be ideal to auto-calibrate and ask the user just to confirm what (s)he sees on the screen. This will help in easy calibration, easy validation (as the user clicks the button after being satisfied by the calibration) and effective spectral analysis. The Macros module helps the users to write their own macros and plugin to the SWB. Also, an offline SWB is a popular request, which will let the users to use SWB even when there is no internet connection, entirely using their own web-browser without needing to install new software and configuring -- which has proven to be complex at times. My project will bring out a fully functional offline SWB.

How will my project meet this need:

My project will come up with the required mechanism for auto calibration. The steps involved are: 1. Check for CFL patterns. When a CFL pattern is observed (using the spectral matching module -- may be?), ask the user if (s)he would like to auto-calibrate. This can be extended to other spectral patterns like Neon after initial testing of the module’s performance on CFL. 2. Find the major known peaks and calculate the distances between them. Use the ratios of these distances to come up with a candidate calibration. 3. Color detection -- find the middle blue line and bright green line using various image processing techniques. Check for over exposure. If all the 3 channels are over exposed, either accept the candidate calibration, or ask the user to change the setup to make sure the exposure is reduced. Else, use the color information to generate another candidate calibration. Calculate a measure (for time being, let us consider it to be Hamming Distance), and see if the candidate calibration using colors is close enough to the one obtained using the ratios of distances method. If it is close enough, then the system is doing good, accept the candidate calibration from step 2. Else, check for over exposure in any of the channels. If over exposed, accept candidate from step 2. Else, accept it from step 3. 4. Ask the user to name the device -if (s)he wishes to, so that they can use this calibration for other spectrums captured with that particular device 5. Save the calibration, if the user is satisfied with the highlighted lines. Or else, manual calibration -- note that this manual calibration will now be added to our search space. Next time, our algorithms will perform better!! 6. For the time being, let’s consider the linear calibration first. Based on the results achieved, we can extend the system to use a nonlinear calibration model. Macro’s module: 1. Refactor the existing Macros module. Also refactor and add few functions in the SWB API so that easier integration and effective use of SWB is possible. How to go about implementing offline SWB? 1. Use most of the HTML and almost all the JS already written 2. Use the localStorage of HTML5 to store spectrums. 3. Even the calibration is stored. 4. An option to choose and upload all or few of the spectrums captured offline on to online SWB, when there is an internet connection available (achieved by pinging our server) 5. Create a module, to which these offline spectrums can be securely uploaded and processed to make sure this won’t result in a Denial of Service attack (using some sort of CSRF tags). 6. The above said module will be a two way one. One can upload the offline spectrums. At the same time, download the calibrated spectrums for offline use.

Timeline/milestones:

Working on it. I want the ideas to be refined, so that I will come up with the timeline appropriately.

What broader goal is my project working towards?

Effective spectral processing for everyone, everywhere!

What resources I will need:

I am a lone worker who loves to work independently without much guidance. I love learning and implementing. This is my weakness, and sometimes, I fall behind schedule. But I strongly believe learning is necessary for not just implementing, but required to implement it right. I would be needing help from the mentor and the community as well regarding the spectra analysis. I would also be needing a foldable from Public Lab so that I can experiment and test the modules I write instantly. Also any literature, which I can understand is much valuable. I don’t need a popular paper, but I need a right paper so that a CS grad like me can understand it. Also constant feedback and support is always appreciated.

Experience:

I was a GSoCer for Public Lab in 2013. I worked on finding closest match spectrum from the database. More about the project can be found here:

  1. http://publiclab.org/notes/Sreyanth/09-14-2013/finding-closest-match-spectra-from-the-database-gsoc-final-post

  2. http://publiclab.org/notes/Sreyanth/07-29-2013/finding-closest-match-spectra-from-the-database-gsoc-work-done-so-far

  3. http://publiclab.org/notes/Sreyanth/06-24-2013/find-closest-match-spectra-from-database-gsoc-project

Also, I have written my own code to do my course projects. I list them here for you (recent first):

  1. Discovering XML Injection Vulnerabilities in Web Applications -- a framework for vulnerability scanners for XML injections

  2. Twitminer (A classifier which classifies the tweets into ‘sports’ or ‘politics’): Written in Python. (used sci-kit learn for this)

  3. External Merge Sort Implementation for one billion integers (wanted to have some fun!). Written in C.

  4. Top Down Parser for a subset of C language. Written in C using Lex and Yacc.

  5. Multi-threaded chat server and chat application. Written for my socket programming lab in C.

  6. iAd- Integrated Ad Agency Management System. Written in JSP.

  7. Capture the Flag platform. Written in Python. Used Django, PHP and CGI.

  8. eAgromet – Advisory system for Agricultural Scientists. Written in JSP and Python.

  9. A Deterministic Cryptarithmetic solver. Written in Python.

  10. Online Driving Licensing System. Written using PHP.

In addition, my application, CulinarYou! was a finalist in Google Cloud Developer Challenge 2013

Teamwork

Yes, I have worked in a team for my course projects [6th and 10th in the above list]. Also, my last summer internship at the International Institute of Information Technology was also a team project [8th in the above list]. According to me, working in a team needs good communication. Without which the project will be a bit out of the road. Luckily, all my team mates used to discuss the ideas and implementation plan almost daily and we made it a huge success.

Expertise

Well, I consider myself good enough and well suited to handle this project. I am already well versed with the SWB codebase. I am comfortable with RoR and JS. I am good with C and Python too. Web tech, I am good with Django and Google App Engine too. With immense experience in developing web applications, I think I am well suited for this project. And more importantly, I love coding, optimizing, scaling and again looking it all over to make sure it meets MY standards. My standards are: Correct output, less time, neatly labeled variables, sufficient documentation.

Interest

Yes. I always had a thing for open science. In my humble opinion, science is not confined to just scholars. Everyone can learn, use, discover and invent it. Why should only scientists perform experiments? Aren’t the others really fit to even learn some basic phenomena in the nature? And yeah, I realize that public lab is a nice platform working towards this goal. I actually even want to recommend that public lab should start some initiative only for kids to develop the interest for science in them.

Audience

Non – technical users. The user need not know anything how this is implemented.

Context

The main thing that motivates to work on this is, my attachment to this project. I loved working on SWB last year, with great inputs from my mentor as well as the PLOTS community. I thought to switching the project, to Infragram for a while. But, I thought of making SWB much more effective and then jump on to Infragram -- the reason being, I believe I am going to be a developer for Public Lab in the future too. Continuing the same enthusiasm, I want to contribute to the same project. This project posed some interesting coding challenges to me, and am constantly motivated by the way my mentor looks at these issues. So, this project won't only strengthen my coding skills, it also enriches my analytical thinking. With this in mind, I am reapplying for the same project.

Ongoing involvement

By the time GSoC ends, we would have a fully functioning auto calibration system, and an offline SWB. I would like to be a part of PLOTS community ever after the end of GSoC, mainly because of the interesting issues and projects Public Lab looks into.

Commitment

Yes. I have no other commitments for this summer. I want to devote the entire time, approximately, some 40 hrs a week to my GSoC project.

Please note: This is still a draft and is going to significantly change in the upcoming days. Please feel free to give your valuable feedback by commenting on this post, or by emailing me (sreyanth@gmail.com) or Jeff (jywarren@gmail.com)


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Hi Sreyanth,

I really like the idea of combining information from the intensity graph of a spectrum with information about which colors the peaks are in order to recognize spectra. That should have great power to identify CFL spectra. If that procedure works well, it might be possible to include a few other types of common emission spectra, like mercury and neon. In fact, the two peaks now used to calibrate CFL spectra are both peaks of mercury, so it might be important to distinguish pure mercury from a CFL which also has distinct peaks from terbium and europium. If your algorithm detects those two mercury peaks, it could look for the big red europium peak at 611 nm to confirm that it is a CFL. In fact, calibration will be much stronger using that red peak (611 nm) and the blue peak (436 nm) because they are farther apart than the two mercury peaks used by default at Spectral Workbench. Then you will have to decide, if you have identified three peaks, whether to use all three in your calibration. This might require non-linear calibration, but most spectrometers probably need that, and its just math, right? Once you have pinned down three peaks in a putative CFL spectrum, you could even look for more and really know how much massaging each spectrum required to calibrate it. Then you could report to the user "Congratulations, this spectrum required only a second order polynomial to achieve excellent calibration." And then maybe "As long as you don't touch your spectrometer, subsequent spectra will be spot on!"

Chris

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Hi Chris,

Amazing. Thank you for detailing out what can be done. So, as far as I can understand, instead of finding our 2 peaks (which always makes the calibration a linear one), we now need to find one more (the big red line at 611nm).

Now, we will have 3 peaks with us. We can use these to calibrate the spectrum with some non-linear calibration (mostly a 2nd order polynomial as we have only 3 peaks). The higher the number of peaks we consider, higher would be the order of this polynomial.

Also, could you throw some light on few must-have features for offline SWB? I am planning for a stable release and it would be better if we included some really required features in both online and offline SWB.

Sreyanth

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Sreyanth,

I don't know the issues associated with using SWB offline. I always work offline -- taking still photos of spectra and later uploading them to SWB. So my workflow might be different from most.

I think you noted elsewhere a problem with using color to identify spectra. In many spectra, the highest peaks are overexposed in at least one color channel. So the channel that primarily determines which color the peak is has only the value 255 for a range of wavelengths and provides poor information about the location of the peak. You still know the general color of the peak (even though it might look white) because you know which channel is overexposed, but you have to determine the location of the peak from another channel that is not overexposed. So this is doable, but tedious. When an algorithm has worked through this process, you know a lot about the quality of the spectral image. It might be good to report this to the user and in some cases maybe encourage a repeat attempt with better exposure. Maybe each spectrum could be given a quality grade based on exposure and dynamic range to educate people about what makes more useful spectral data.

Chris

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Thanks for your informative comment Chris.

Its interesting to know that you take still photos and later upload them to SWB. It would be great if we get to hear more about this, so even others can try it out!

Yes, there are chances that one or more channels may be overexposed. If only one channel is overexposed, say the value is 255, we can use the other two channels for peak detection purpose (as we know the pattern of how these blue, red and green bright lines should look in those particular non-overexposed channels). If more than one channel is overexposed, then we can alert the user to re-attempt with better exposure. I would like you to help me out to gather these overexposed spectrums from SWB database, so that I can come up with a better algorithm.

Also, how shall we go about giving a quality grade to the spectrum? Which dynamic range are we looking at for this purpose?

Sreyanth

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It is easy to find CFL spectra that are overexposed. A quick survey suggests that maybe > 3/4 of the CFL spectra at SWB have at least one peak with the primary channel flooded (select More_Tools/Toggle RGB). This is not surprising because the diffraction pattern of CFL has very bright peaks with black areas between, so it takes a good camera with high dynamic range and very careful exposure to avoid overexposure while still capturing the fainter peaks. So this will be a persistent problem, but in most cases a secondary channel has good peak information.

It might be possible to analyze a spectral image of CFL and determine how many bright peaks and faint peaks have acceptable information. If three or four of the brightest peaks and four or five of the fainter peaks can be discerned, the spectrum might deserve a high grade. Maybe just reporting how many of the 16 major CFL peaks are recognizable will be a good metric.

The diffraction pattern produced by the Public Lab spectrometers is very detailed and contains a lot of information. The obstacle is making a good photographic image of that pattern. The beauty of the spectral patterns captured me, and I just use a Canon Powershot to take photos of them. This allows higher resolution but most importantly greater dynamic range and easier control of exposure. Even so, all of my CFL spectra have overexposed channels.

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I think I will have to learn more about the spectrometers and what factors lead to over exposure and the patterns to determine those reasons automatically. This way, we can try correcting the spectrum, may be?

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Sreyanth - can we or shall we send you at least a foldable spectrometer so you can test this stuff out? Do you have a webcam you could use with it?

Sorry, i haven't had more time to respond to this post; just trying to get through all the GSOC postings and am traveling and working on the road this past week. Forgive me! I'll see if I can jump in and give more substantive feedback soon.

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Sreyanth - Yes, off-line is a valuable capability as it frees the user from the internet and it allows independent capture and retention of spectral data (i.e. capture 50 and upload 3 good ones.)

In searching for peaks (for frequency cal), there are at least 3 approaches: 1) center = max peak value, 2) center = mid-point between sides of peak at -3dB from max peak, and 3) the centroid of the peak. Based on the variety of the spectra uploaded, I'd suggest #2. Remember, image processing doesn't really apply; this is just a 1D waveform.

I'd suggest that with just 2 data points (436nm and 611nm) will not allow a non-linear calculation. Even 3 points is insufficient. Remember that with most of the spectra uploaded, there is clipping which will distort at least one peak. That alone will cause more error to a simple linear approximation that what might be corrected for with a non-linear factor. However, that said, if the non-linearity could be observed using many peaks with a very careful setup, that non-linear correction should apply to every device -- i.e. there would be no need to do non-linear correction on every spectrum.

A much bigger factor is the general failure to capture valid spectrum data to start. I would recommend you take a look at my HDR2 note: http://alpha.publiclaboratory.org/notes/stoft/03-09-2014/hdr2-using-over-exposure-to-your-advantage and think about the source data as everything else comes from that. The source data is of little value if it contains gross errors due to poor SNR and heavily clipped RGB channels. Throwing away most of the data from the full spectral image band and then expecting to extract it later using some alternate technique just isn't possible. Once you throw data away, it's gone. Period.

How about a project with 3 goals: 1) Full-band data extraction and clipping correction, 2) Linear-Only Auto-Cal (from the results of #1) of only CFL spectra and 3) Off-line data collection to view #1 (and maybe #2) but only upload either the full image or an auto-cropped 'spectral band' segment of the image. Admittedly ambitious, but at least each element is self-contained.

Cheers, Dave

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OK, my thoughts -- very lengthy! I had a while on an airplane to really dig into this. Also Dave posted since I did, so maybe there's some overlap with what he said. Take a deep breath, here we go!

Auto digitization: along with auto-calibration, what about auto-detection of the clearest-lit region of the video output to use -- perhaps relating to Dave Stoft's recent work on "HDR" spectra, and/or reading/averaging various lines to get a clearer, less noisy, and well-exposed spectrum. It's worth looking at if existing overexposed spectra do have enough data above and below the chosen cross-section to make a better-exposed calibration. But often spectra images are curved, so it may not be a simple issue of moving up or down... but i guess if the sampling line is adjusted in the capture interface (and recorded in the device profile) then it would be OK.

While using some advanced techniques to get well-exposed spectra would be great, it could get quite messy unless we have a good systematic way to record how these digitizations of images were performed. This could relate to the idea of "recipes" which is written in some Github issue (remind me to look for the issue) where the manner in which the graph is generated from the spectrum is recorded in the device profile as a sequence of coordinates and such: "x1,y1,x2,y2,spread" where spread is the # of pixels above and below the line to average in.

Re: #4: will including manual calibrations necessarily improve the automated calibration? could it make an auto-recognition more likely without allowing poor manual calibrations to make the actual scaling of the autocalibration less accurate?

Offline SWB: use localStorage (a local key:value sqlite-backed database in HTML5) instead of local files to store spectra. You can dump the dataUrl into the value, in a JSON object. Chris is talking about the ability to upload images, which is not the same as the live capture interface running offline. People have asked for the ability to live-analyze, calibrate, and use the whole Capture interface offline. Obviously they can't run matching, but you might be able to design your auto-calibration system to run offline. Don't let this distract you from designing a great auto-calibration tool though -- if it works better do to it server-side, that's more important. Key features that don't already exist for offline include mainly:

Secure uploading: do you think requiring a user login is not secure enough?

Using color instead of just ratio of distances for recognition: I worry that overexposure (sometimes in all 3 color channels!) or camera variation might make color a poor indicator, but I'm not confident about my doubts either... it could work! My hope was that my original approach of ratio of distances between major peaks could be improved by making it the ratio of distances between each peak and some absolute location. Consider that sometimes people miss near-UV peaks or aren't recording infrared peaks. Also consider that infrared peaks can show up as all kinds of weird colors depending on the Bayer filters. So this is a complex question, deserving of some empirical attempts. Maybe also just the ratios between all possible peak pairs, or something. Surely there's good literature on this already out there, perhaps for general pattern matching, or for matching bar codes.

Non-linear calibration: I think this is a lower priority, at least insofar as it should not stop fast development of a linear calibration first. This could be related to the recipes idea, like "x1,y1,x2,y2,x3,y3,spread" in terms of how it's recorded and displayed

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Jeff, Specific to data/analysis, post-processing can only as good as the source data. This is why I'm focused on first getting that data; other things can, and should, follow. It is important to not throw away image data; at least not until the most accurate spectral response curve has been extracted.

Frequency calibration is based on identifying peaks, so if those peaks are skewed because of RGB channel clipping the calibration will be affected. Remember also that not all peaks are simple, symmetrical, smooth shapes so clipping will shift the peak center, dependent on the shape of the peak -- clipping distorts this.

True, some images have curves which are a result of the diffraction grating / slit. However, that can easily be detected -- IF you look at the entire 'band' of data. However, where there is some curvature, it will be uniform (the physical area of the grating is very small) so a first-order approximation should not be difficult to generate; and used to compensate the image data.

The effect on the final spectral curve is primarily on the sensitivity curve -- which is primarily an intensity factor, not a frequency effect. ie. variability in RGB detection sensitivity won't have much impact on frequency cal -- but RGB clipping will.

So, whether on-line or off-line, if the entire spectral band image area is used to extract the final spectral response, you will go a long way toward making posted response data much more independent of device / user / setup. It is always important to put the source data handling as far toward the front-end as possible for the best SNR and minimize error propagation.

I used a random sample 640x480 full-image spectrum from the original PLab webcam but admittedly, it was my setup and my own slit. If you want to point to or send me an RGB clipped, curved full-image spectrum which you think is a good test case, I'll tweak my algorithm and post the results to my HDR2 research note.

Cheers, Dave

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Hi Dave and Jeff

Thanks for your feedback. I really liked the idea of using over-exposure to our advantage to create a high dynamic range spectrum. Though I personally love to work on these features, a recent proposal drew my attention, which overlaps to a large extent with my proposal.

Pascal's proposal ( http://publiclab.org/notes/PascalW/03-11-2014/gsoc-proposal-spectralworkbench ) is well researched and he started working on the problems we are discussing here, in this thread. I found this proposal to be promising and I don't want his work to go waste.

This leaves me with only Offline SWB to work on ( :-O ) and some other less-important features. Seems like I will have to explore other ideas and propose a much useful contribution to any of the Public Lab projects.

Sreyanth

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I don't think there is too much overlap in proposals, and I'm going to encourage both of you to widen your scope to make your proposals unique but helpful counterparts.

(repeating what I wrote to Pascal) There's plenty of work to be done in SWB! My initial thought is that Pascal's interest is in exposure, clipping, and sample row selection, whereas you are interested in calibration. Perhaps if each of you affords the other space and coordinates where your code "touches", this can work... if you each take on another sub-project as well, we can get an awful lot done this summer!

One area is Macros. I think the macro system could make it much easier for people to add new functions to SWB, and some better "plumbing" of that system, as well as the ability to access/run macros both at capture time and analysis time, would make a huge difference. Other interesting things macros could offer:

Another feature which could be interesting is one which automates collection of spectra periodically (every 5 minutes, every minute) and helps you search for events over time, like heavy metal spectra in a smokestack flare, or something. This means of collecting data 24hrs a day could easily overwhelm the current system, but some smart adaptation of SWB could make this a powerful analytic technique. Maybe it would only save a spectrum if a certain condition is met. Maybe it would save everything locally but only prompt you to upload unique events -- rapid changes in the spectrum or something. Lots of possibilities related to http://publiclab.org/wiki/refinery-watching

After all, Sreyanth, you did propose quite a few projects for this summer -- even if you let Pascal work on sample-row-selection (digitization) you'd still have calibration, offline SWB, and potentially macros or 24-hour monitoring to work on. And, you two could help each other problem-solve.

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Sreyanth,

Don't give up so easily; I think Pascal has described an enormous amount of work. I'd suggest some collaboration is warranted and everyone would benefit as a result. I'll add a few comments to his note.

Cheers, Dave

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Hi Jeff and Dave!

Thanks for your timely feedback. I actually cloned, setup Infragram and started looking at what can be done (as the deadline is too close!). Since, I realize that there are still some great features I can work upon, I would like to modify and cleanup the proposal.

I will better work on the following:

  1. automatic calibration (Lets try developing a functional linear calibration module first. And then extend it following what Chris and Dave suggested -- the non linear model)

  2. Macros for SWB.

  3. I also strongly believe that the refinery watching feature can be implemented using the macros. Can't we, Jeff? Lets put the macro system developed in #2 to work!

  4. Offline version of SWB. Lets leverage the HTML5 additions as Jeff rightly pointed out. But I was wondering if that would slow down the system (a huge dataset right? -- so proposed using local files). Will do some reading and get back to you!

My thoughts (which I didn't post previously): I think we need to provide an option for manual calibrations too, at least in the initial phases of development. This way, we can analyze such manual calibrations and find in which cases our module is failing.

Also, I don't think only ensuring an user is logged in is sufficient for uploading the offline spectra. I am afraid there may be some robot attacks which may result in Denial of Service. So, lets use the CSRF tokens to make sure only valid spectrums are uploaded. To make sure this system is secure, we will need to develop a new, faster and secure way to upload the spectrums.

Offline SWB: I have a feeling that we need to use the SWB API to the fullest for this project. So, for this, I would like to refactor a part of the API code and document it where necessary. This makes our approach much easier. Also, the entire macro system can be used here! Isnt it?

So, this should actually let us use offline SWB for refinery watching, once developed completely.

Thanks Sreyanth

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UPDATED the proposal. Please have a look and let me know if this is Okay!

Thanks

Sreyanth

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Sreyanth, Jeff,

I may not be up on the latest strategy for the code projects, but I'm still sensing that some concepts are diffuse. Performing frequency calibration can only be done AFTER there is a quality spectral response from the RGB data. Therefore, extraction of this response is part of the front-end. This also help the freq cal process since it can assume there is a valid response to observe -- and neither need nor want to look back at RGB data. Having a quality spectral response, then allows easier searching for peaks to decide if it might be CFL (..or other types could be added later).

I think that any off-line user would expect automatic RGB to spectral response and freq cal because anything less is near useless for off-line work. This also encourages users to experiment and only upload when they have something they think is useful and tested enough to share -- which reduces the amount of low-quality or useless spectra for sorting.

This then suggests that the algorithms need to implement the same concepts on and off line -- though the coding can be different. However, it seems likely that if both are browser based, then they should be quite similar. I'd suggest that this summer's work might therefore consist of 4 elements:

1) Modularize SWB for both on and off line use with common modules as possible,

2) re-write the front-end to auto-locate the spectral band, extract the full-band RGB, correct for curvature, HDR to extract data from clupped regions and produce a quality spectral response,

3) Using the results of #2, auto-recognize CFLs and auto-cal (linear),

4) Provide both on and off line use of the freq-cal data ( a device only needs one calibration so only one need be stored on/off line) and provide a way to upload calibrated spectra.

I'd guess that this could keep two motivated students very active and, if finished, would provide a huge step forward in usability and accessibility.

Cheers, Dave

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Hi Dave

Sorry. I somehow missed this comment.

Yes, You are right with your steps to be taken. And, I think I planned to take the same steps (along with designing modules) so that independent and effective development can take place.

I am looking into the Macros module. I think we should be exploit it to port most of the required functionalities for both off and on line use.

As usual, you are great with your insights.

Thanks, Sreyanth

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I echo Dave's thought about ordering, and agree that it means we'd prefer a client-side implementation of both auto-extraction of spectral response and auto-calibration. I left a question on Pascal's proposal to that effect too.

the refinery watching feature can be implemented using the macros

Yes!!!! I agree. Also about your CSRF token idea. Another thought I had was that we could use the time dimension differently for long-term monitoring... we could have each row of pixels represent a single scan, at 5-minute intervals, or whatever. I dunno... just thinking of how to reduce the need to store whole images every N minutes. And Dave is right about this too -- if we have spectrum extraction (of unclipped data) client-side, on-the-fly in javascript, we don't need to store the whole image for long-term monitoring. We can store just the good data we collect every 5 minutes. I think that's an acceptable amount of raw data to store... Dave?

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