Water Sensors
question:water-sensors

Many people interested in measuring various **water quality parameters** that are relevant to environmental health in low-cost and accessible ways. Many have been working on low-cost, open-source sensors for water chemistry and physical properties, and there are also several commercially available water sensors and analog tools that can measure relevant water quality parameters. [![IMG_20171205_145207.jpg](https://publiclab.org/system/images/photos/000/022/802/large/IMG_20171205_145207.jpg)](https://publiclab.org/system/images/photos/000/022/802/original/IMG_20171205_145207.jpg) ### Overview Often, electronic environmental sensors are just one part of a system that includes: * a [data logger](/wiki/data-logging) * some kind of [water and weather-proof enclosure](/wiki/sensor-enclosures) * a **sensor of some kind** -- see [Sensors](#Sensors), below And we also have to consider: * how to **configure the logging program** & **[connect to the chosen sensors](/notes/warren/12-06-2017/help-document-how-to-connect-different-sensors-to-a-data-logger)** * how to [download data](/wiki/data-logging#Download) * how to [visualize](/tag/visualization) data * how to [design experiments](/tag/experimental-design) using these techniques It's hard work writing good documentation. Let's team up and share as much of the above as possible -- many of these steps are either not device-specific, or are at least very helpful **if written in a way that supports use across projects**. **** [![coqui.png](https://publiclab.org/system/images/photos/000/022/801/large/coqui.png)](https://publiclab.org/system/images/photos/000/022/801/original/coqui.png) ## Getting started If you have never used an electronic water sensor before, try the Coqui project, which is specifically designed for folks who are just starting out. [Build a Coqui](/wiki/coqui) - a simple device to read a sensor via an audible tone. The Coqui is also a stellar example of how to document a project. (above photo by @akshaya) **** ## Choosing Sensors Often the first step is to **look for a sensor for what you're hoping to measure.** Below we're collecting info on different kinds of water quality sensors, and their: * cost * sensitivity/accuracy * links and documentation Can you afford a sensor? Can it detect what you're looking for? Where can you learn more about it? And here's a longer collection of many different sensors ([add to this list here!](/notes/warren/12-06-2017/help-collect-environmental-sensors-probes-on-a-shared-list)): See and [edit the full spreadsheet here](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UwjRqU8kHTwEcnDdO2Zxkr8zkFkaGfyePJ-cdnxJzw0/edit?usp=sharing) ### To be added * See this [great list of sensors from the KnowFlow](/questions/rockets/07-10-2017/how-accurate-is-the-probe) * [the Wheestat](/wiki/wheestat-user-s-manual) can be plugged into a datalogger * we should go through the above list and see which are Arduino-compatible - add to the "Interface" column * Figaro electronic #hydrogen-sulfide sensors [here](/notes/warren/9-19-2011/prototype-h2s-sensor) Are there others you're interested in? Please add them to the list here and to the linked Google Doc! (below are some not listed above yet) - transparency - chemical oxygen demand - COD - phosphate - total dissolved solids - TDS - Hardness - Lead - bacteria - fluoride heavy metal [prompt:text:ie temperature] **** ## Questions [questions:water-sensors] **** ### Connecting sensors Most of the [data loggers](/wiki/data-logging) on this site are Arduino-based (#arduino) while some are Raspberry Pi-based (#raspberry-pi). Vernier has a lot of good resources on connecting their Arduino-compatible sensors, with example code: https://www.vernier.com/engineering/arduino/ As we build out resources for connecting different sensors or different types of sensor interfaces (i2c, analog, etc), let's think about how best to list those guides and support materials here. Help add activities below for connecting specific sensors to [different data loggers](/wiki/data-logging), and pitch in on [researching how these connect here](/notes/warren/12-06-2017/help-document-how-to-connect-different-sensors-to-a-data-logger). [activities:connecting-sensors] **** ### Analog methods Even though this wiki page is labeled "water sensors," the most accessible modes of measuring water quality parameters are often **analog, non-digital methods** where you directly observe water (e.g. using a secchi disk to assess turbidity) or collect a sample and test it with a visual method (e.g. color-change pH strips). Several analog tools are included in the spreadsheet, and please add more! ### Hybrid approaches and enclosures In some cases, it may be possible to couple a commercially available **probe** sensor with a DIY **data logger** (such as the Riffle, https://publiclab.org/riffle) and an water-tight **enclosure** to create a lower-cost deployable sensor. Deployable sensors can be extremely useful for long-term monitoring, monitoring in places that are difficult to access frequently, or to document fluctuations in water chemistry with greater temporal resolution. ...


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Ag8n "Amazon lists a microprocessor based circuit for about $46. That does not include the probe, case, or many other requirements. But it is a start. ..." | Read more » almost 6 years ago
warren "@Ag8n found you can look on Amazon for aquarium sensors! https://publiclab.org/questions/Ag8n/02-12-2018/substitution-for-conductivity-meter Inclu..." | Read more » about 6 years ago
warren "I love this idea. Here are some leads on connecting a TDS meter to an Arduino, if that's what you're interested in: https://forum.arduino.cc/index..." | Read more » about 6 years ago
warren "wow!!! This is very cool. Here's an amazon link: https://www.amazon.com/s/?tag=duc0c-20&url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=tds%20aquarium " | Read more » about 6 years ago
Ag8n "I checked Amazon. There are several tds meters that also do conductivity for a price of under $20. Since a scientific model lists for about $1000,..." | Read more » about 6 years ago
Ag8n "Sorry. Truncated the internet address: Https://www.hydroponics.net/learn/debate_over_ec_and_tds.php " | Read more » about 6 years ago
Ag8n "Check out: Https://www.hydroponics.net/lear All tds meters are conductivity meters, but according to the article, they may not all use the same c..." | Read more » about 6 years ago
Ag8n "I think it is. Was hoping someone was more familiar than me. Different websites talk about charge and others about conductivity, which can be two..." | Read more » about 6 years ago
gretchengehrke "Hi @Ag8n, Do you know how the aquarium TDS meter works? Maybe it really is just a super cheap conductivity meter? " | Read more » about 6 years ago
warren "And also see: https://publiclab.org/questions/gretchengehrke/07-19-2017/can-commercially-available-water-sensors-work-with-diy-data-loggers " | Read more » over 6 years ago
warren "@cfastie - i remember you highlighted a few different interfaces Arduinos can use -- i2c, analog... do many sensors fall into one of these categori..." | Read more » over 6 years ago
warren "We're going to try to collect this info on this listing of different sensors over here! https://publiclab.org/wiki/water-sensors#Sensors " | Read more » over 6 years ago
gretchengehrke "That's true Chris @cfastie! You read through to the heart of my internal question on this too: is it worth it to try to hack commercially available..." | Read more » over 6 years ago
cfastie "Gretchen, It looks like some of the sensors in the Water Sensor wiki could be hacked to work with an Arduino based data logger, but you would want..." | Read more » over 6 years ago
rockets "yes, that's better than mines " | Read more » almost 7 years ago
warren "Hi, @rockets -- maybe refining the title could be helpful here; I hope you don't mind but as I'm an admin, I changed it to How accurate are KnowFlo..." | Read more » almost 7 years ago
rockets "The probe accurate is list below: 1 Gravity: Analog Electrical Conductivity Sensor / Meter For Arduino Operating Voltage: +5.00 V PCB Size: 45 × 32..." | Read more » almost 7 years ago
MadTinker "@gretchengehrke Thanks! That's kinda what I thought, but wasn't sure. I'll likely end up with both since the professional measurement suite has his..." | Read more » almost 7 years ago
gretchengehrke "Hi @MadTinker, oxidation-reduction potential (ORP) and power of hydrogen (pH) measure different chemical properties: ORP provides information about..." | Read more » almost 7 years ago